Speaker Johnson clashes with Rand Paul over 'wimpy' spending cuts in Trump's bill

House Speaker Mike Johnson went to conflict with Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., implicit spending cuts and the nationalist indebtedness successful President Donald Trump's "big, beauteous bill" this weekend. 

Johnson made the comments during an quality connected "Fox News Sunday" with big Shannon Bream, aft Paul had called the spending cuts successful the existent mentation of the measure "wimpy."

"It sounds similar his biggest objection is the information that we are extending the indebtedness ceiling. That's a critically important happening to do. We person to bash it. We're not going to get immoderate Democrats to assistance connected that," Johnson said Sunday.

"So to get it done the Senate and marque definite we don't clang the U.S. system and default connected our debts for the archetypal clip successful history, it has to beryllium portion of the reconciliation package. And that's wherefore President Trump and each the different Republicans successful Congress, House and Senate recognize the necessity of this," helium added.

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House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., speaks during a quality league astatine the Capitol, May 6, 2025, successful Washington.  (AP Photo/Rod Lamkey, Jr., File)

Paul himself besides appeared connected "Fox News Sunday" aboriginal successful the show, and helium continued to blast what helium said was a deficiency of existent spending cuts.

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"I supported the taxation cuts successful 2017. I enactment making them permanent, truthful I enactment that portion of the bill. I enactment spending cuts. I deliberation the cuts presently successful the measure are wimpy and anemic, but I inactive would enactment the bill, adjacent with wimpy and anemia cuts, if they weren't going to detonate the debt. The occupation is the mathematics doesn't adhd up. They're going to detonate the debt. The House's is $4 trillion. The Senate's really been talking astir exploding the indebtedness by $5 trillion," Paul said.

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., is lasting successful the mode of passing President Trump's "big, beauteous bill." (Tom Williams/CQ-Roll Call, Inc via Getty Images)

He went connected to accidental that determination is nary mode helium tin ballot for a mentation of the measure that raises the indebtedness ceiling by $5 trillion.

"There's got to beryllium idiosyncratic near successful Washington who thinks indebtedness is incorrect and deficits are wrong and wants to spell successful the different direction," helium said.

Paul alternatively projected raising the indebtedness ceiling for a play of 3 months, oregon $500 billion, connected a rolling basis. He argued that voting connected the contented each 3 months would unit enactment to instrumentality the contented earnestly by placing the deficiency of advancement halfway signifier successful U.S. politics.

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"The shortage is simply a menace to our country. I deliberation it's the top menace to nationalist security. And truthful I deliberation you can't bash this," Paul said.